Tuesday, June 24, 2008

What Is the "Soul?"

It does not seem that the discussion of whether or not there is such a thing as “the soul” is really very serious. I hold that it is self-evident that all living creatures are in possession of a soul. However, I expect that a large portion of those who would disagree with this statement are actually making a statement about the properties of the soul, not about the existence of the soul.

That the soul exists is demonstrated simply. There is something which differentiates between that which is living and that which is non-living and this thing is called a soul. This is not a controversial statement and is one which, I presume, everyone can agree with. Thus if it is determined that it is the human brain which differentiates between the living and the non-living, than we can justly say that the human brain is actually the soul. This is really the classical definition of the soul and is in keeping with most philosophical and religious thought.

The difficulty, and the controversy, comes from the discussion of the properties of the soul. Is the soul made of matter or is it immaterial? Is the soul immortal or does it cease to exist upon death? Is there any difference between the soul of a man and that of a tree? These are the questions which are really interesting, and which fuel our discussion and thoughts on the soul.

Using the above example in which it was supposed the human brain were the principle which differentiates from the living and the non-living and thus was the soul, a couple of points become clear. The principle which determines which things are living and which are not will have to be in every living thing. From this example, the human brain would have to be found in every living thing. Obviously this cannot really be the “soul” as grass, which is living, does not possess a brain at all! There is a way around this difficulty, which is to suggest that there are different categories of souls. A tree has a “tree soul” or a “plant soul” with particular characteristics and other types of living things have different souls with different characteristics. In fact, this is what Aristotle suggested so long ago, saying that plants have a “nutritive soul” while animals have a different type of soul.

Another point which the above example illustrates is that the soul must be found in living things but not found in things that are not living. Thus if the brain truly were the principle of life, than it would have to in some way leave the living creature upon it’s demise. This brings up an important problem for those who contend that the soul is a material thing as there really seems to be no material physical difference between a living object and one which is no longer living. The material changes occur after an object passes from living to non-living. In fact, once you start to think about it, we really don’t have a very clear definition for what it means for something to be alive at all!

To momentarily skip over this, admittedly important question, there must be something which unifies all things which we call alive. Thus, even if there are different categories of souls, they cannot really be totally different things. As there is no material difference between the living and the non-living and as there is no unifying material property of living things, we can deduce that the soul is ultimately non-material.

This is why it has been held for centuries that the soul consists on a non-material level. Further, from this one conclusion, several other conclusions naturally follow. First, if the soul is non-material, there is some part of all living things which exists outside of time (for this proof, spend a little time reading my discussions on The Source), but in what way must still be determined. Secondly, this would mean that the soul exists on some level which is inaccessible to scientific (at least scientific materialism’s) scrutiny.

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The Capitalist said...
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The Capitalist said...

I'm not sure you can truly conclude what you have. Perhaps there is not material difference between the living and dead (strictly speaking). However, there is no material difference (in the same regards) between your computer when it is on vs. when it is off.

Torq said...

Interesting. Would you then suggest that a computer is alive? This would be the crux of the question I suppose.

Also, one key difference comes to mind and that would be that the Power button is "On" in one and not in the other.

I think I need to think about this a little more. I want to say that you have a very good point, but I am just not sure what that point is right now. Let me muse a space!

Anonymous said...

There are material differences between alive things and dead things. In fact, it is a material difference which causes the transition between alive and dead. In the case of humans, for instance, alive humans have beating hearts, while dead humans do not. If your heart ceases to beat, you will no longer be alive.

If you could somehow replicate every material function of the body in dead flesh (a task which science is certainly not presently capable of), and you observed no life, then your statement of "there is no material difference between alive and dead" would be accurate.

Until then, however, I'd suggest refraining from catastrophic material alterations.

-Ben

Anonymous said...

There are also material differences between computers that are turned on and those that are turned off. Besides the power switch, "on" computers have many moving parts and electric current flowing through them. "Off" computers have none of this.

The could be considered (and has been on many occasions) analogous to a dead brain and a live one - live brains are filled with electric signals, while dead ones are not.

Torq said...

These are good points. To look at your first one, you have a very big problem with how you are conceiving of "alive." The beating of the heart can be stimulated externally by modern medicine. Once a person is dead, if you were to attach a pacemaker to the body and turn it on, the heart would beat, but the body would not return to life. The heart stopping may sometimes lead to a person dying, but a person dying always stops the heart.

I would agree with your analysis of a computer, and don't even have any real problem with a computer being used as an analogy for the brain. In this analogy, if the brain dies than the human dies. Thus the brain would be the "soul" and the soul would be matter. I suppose the only way to contest this definition, as we know little of the brain, would be to see if anyone has ever been brain dead and come back from that. Perhaps a deep coma with little to no brain activity?

This is a harder objection still... would you then contend that plants, which do not have brain activity, are not alive?

The Capitalist said...

If you chop the head off a chicken & it's flopping around (as we know), is it 'Dead'? Which part is dead? We can attach limbs, so it's only time before we can attach a head... Once the Head is re-attached, is the chicken alive again (or was it alive all along)?

Torq said...

Nods thoughtfully... I think we need to arrive at a definition of life before we can really answer these questions. That's going to be tricky.

Your post actually reminds me pretty strongly of a horror story about re-animating a dead person's head. *shudders*

The Capitalist said...

ya, I was trying to do a little research on one-celled organisms but ended up going nowhere.

Torq said...

I have done a little more thinking about this question and think I can provide a general idea of what it is to be "alive" by borrowing heavily from Aristotle.

I also think that there may be a problem with the final part of my argument. When I suggested that the thing which makes people alive (the soul) must be found in all living things, I was extending a proof to say that the soul must be non-material. I think that I may have just made a semantic argument which doesn't have any bearing on reality. Just because we have a word, alive, which we apply to many different things does not necessarily imply that it is the same thing which MAKES them alive. A name is just a name after all. We really need to figure out what we mean by "alive" before this conversation can have any real meaning!

I'll put together a post about it later!