I have been reading Kierkegaard's "Fear and Trembling" again. This was one of those books which I read through and reached then end of having only actually understood about ten percent of. Unfortunately, this seems to happen to me rather frequently.
At any rate this book is all about Faith. What is Faith? Who has Faith? Where does it come from? The more I read the less I seem to understand. This is not the first book that I have read on the subject, and it is perhaps not the definitive one. However, it seems to me that Kierkegaard has latched onto something which most talks about Religion pass over. Namely, that Faith is very hard. Hard to understand, hard to have.
Most people hear the word faith and what comes to mind as a definition is something like blind acceptance. At least half of the work I have put into the blog has been in an effort to show that Faith is not just blind acceptance, but is rather both reasonable and ultimately rational. I still believe this, but I am not quite as certain anymore that this is the whole story.
C.S. Lewis wrote in Mere Christianity that there are certain difficulties, certain forks in the path of understanding which one cannot really begin to understand until you have walked a distance down the path. I thought I understood that quite well and unlike my reading of Kierkegaard I was quite sure that after putting down Lewis' book I understood most of what he was getting at. I see now that the question of Faith is one of those forks in the road to which I had not yet come. Lewis warns his readers that to try to get ahead of yourself and to tackle a problem before you have yet come to that particular fork in the road will likely do more harm than good and that we should often leave well enough alone. Perhaps, this is what I should encourage you to do here.
Most of the issues which have been raised until now have been basic. These are questions which are typically raised and discussed in a first year philosophy or theology course. The question of Faith is much harder. A lot of what I have been working to do is to demonstrate how our duty to ethics is tied inherently to God. Yet Kierkegaard keeps making me stare straight at Abraham and Isaac. That Abraham, the Father of Faith, could have marched his son three days into the desert and up the mountain in Moriah, with the intention of murdering him there is mind-bendingly difficult.
If, as I have been trying to prove, ethics is ethics for the simple reason that "the source" says so that we can get around the difficulty quite simply. After all, if "the source" says that killing your son is just what he wants you to do, than doesn't that make murdering this kid ethical, in fact does it not make any other action unethical? Well, no, it just doesn't work that way. What is ethical is by its very nature universally applicable to all people in all times. If it is not, that we live in an irrational world and everything that I have been trying to say is moot. Now, the only loophole which we actually have is that Abraham did NOT kill Isaac. However, if he marched his son for three long days through the desert and up the mountain with the intent of killing him, is he not still a murderer, at least in his own mind? A murder happens at two times. Once in the actual act and once in the decision to act.
Is it possible that Abraham did all of this and yet still believed that his son would not be killed? Could he possibly believe that the God which demanded his son's life was a good God and would not allow Abraham to kill his own son? Could he believe this in the face of God's own request? If he could not believe this than he did not have Faith, yet how could he be so mad as to believe it? Faith. Faith which I do not understand.
I hope that I am not confusing anyone with all of this. It is important that people never forget that the path of Faith is not easier than the path of disbelief. People have the very mistaken opinion that people of religion are taking the easy way out and that those atheists who stare bravely into oblivion somehow are brave. I must humbly disagree.
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Good stuff.
I think the New Testament's definition of faith gets short shrift in contemporary discussions: "Faith is the evidence of things not seen, the substance of things hoped for." So, faith is evidence and substance. That idea negates almost all contemporary discussion of the matter. John Wesley said that faith is the "sensation of the soul".
You are courageous to bring Abraham into the discussion. Of course, he is the "father of faith", according to the New Testament. And yet, the story of the sacrifice of Isaac is the most mysterious and troubling in all religion!
Dad
I am willing to admit when I am particularly clever or courageous. Unfortunately, I am neither right now. Kierkegaard is the one who was both courageous and clever. I am just honest enough to admit that I find this discussion particularly troubling and just brave enough not to look away from it because of that!
I get the feeling that he did not approve of what his contemporaries were saying about Faith and so he wrote this book to make them be quite about it for awhile.
I will have questions about your comment tomorrow. Tonight I have been struck dumb from staring too long at a paradox.
Could you expand upon what you take "Faith is the evidence of things not seen, the substance of things hoped for," (above) to mean?
Does this include our efforts in logic to prove that there is a world "not seen" and that there is a non material cause to the universe?
Richard Dawkins recently defined faith as "believing without evidence," but this is very nearly the opposite of the concept of faith that is used in the Bible.
Hebrews 11 defines faith as your knowledge of the unseen. So, faith is not what you don't know; it's what you DO know, not because of what the Church has told you about God, but because of your own experience of Him.
Faith is the most fundamental of all knowledge, the immediate, the most certain.
For this reason, the Bible contains no argument for the existence of God.
Dad
The difficulty, I am sure you see, is verifying the truth from the madness. As a kid, you wake to the sound of your name being called, but no one is there? Are you crazy, or a prophet to your people?
I suppose the skeptical line can only go so far. I can use the same argument against most of reality that I can use against prophets.
*frowns* I suppose the determining factor is whether or not what happens to you in your "madness" is amenable to reason. If not, than you are probably crazy. If so, than perhaps you had better rethink what is reality.
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It is very hard to talk about. The "evidence... substance" called faith in the Bible is not a miraculous manifestation, like a voice. It is the immediate intuition of the truth and reality of God.
It's not "reasonable" in the sense that you arrive at faith by the operation of reason. It's "prior" to reason, but it's not irrational.
Think of the way we know that 2 is more than 1. We don't know that by a process of reason; we just know it. We don't know it by reason, but it's certainly reasonable. In fact, the intuition of truth is the GROUND of reason.
Faith is like that. It's the truth of God that you just know, "just because."
I find this comment to be dangerously vague. "The truth of God that you just know" is a statement which can very quickly become relativistic.
I agree that there must be a ultimate ground for reality which we must assume. We don't need to debate that point. However, the nature of this ultimate reality is conceived of differently by different religions and peoples. If we "just know," than how can we say that one is right and the other wrong? Shouldn't we all "just know" the same thing?
*frowns* So does this make sense?
The starting point for all philosophy is the existence of truth. This must be presupposed before prepositions can be brought together with any meaning. What prepositions are brought together, where they lead you, and whether or not your logic is correct are all variables which can lead different people to different places. These differences in opinion do not invalidate the existence of truth. Using reason we are able to evaluate the various things people have said in philosophy and determine if they are valid (important note: they are typically all valid in some way, just not in every way).
Likewise, that there is a ultimate reality which all other reality must find it's root is necessarily presupposed by the fact that reality exists. That we can retroactively prove this on the basis of logic simply verifies what was necessarily true in the first place. It explains why it is necessary. However, what different people have thought about this ultimate reality and have had to say about it vary depending on a large number of factors. Again, using our reason we are able to evaluate and discuss the various concepts of the ultimate reality. Like philosophy we typically find that each concept has some value, but every one falls short in some way.
Is this your meaning?
This is very difficult territory, but I will try:
"However, the nature of this ultimate reality is conceived of differently by different religions and peoples. If we "just know," than how can we say that one is right and the other wrong? Shouldn't we all "just know" the same thing?"
We must and do know the same thing. God is, after all, the most universal of all possible concepts: omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent: omni times three! If God is known by faith, and faith is "the evidence of things not seen, the substance of things hoped for," then these different religions and peoples must know the same God, with one nature. However, how God's nature is conceived and expressed is very different, in different religions and cultures. That will depend on their history, language, philosophical tradition, social structure, etc. God is the "ultimate reality" in all cultures, but different cultures will have different ways to conceive the hierarchy of realities.
Let's start with a bowl of ice cream. Let's blindfold three people: an Inuit, an Autralian aborigine, and a California yuppie, and let each one stick a hand into the ice cream. They all touch the same reality, but they will each experience it and name it in a different way, based on the thought forms and experiences of their cultures. They will each liken the sensation to something different. Perhaps the Californian will experience ice cream, but the Inuit will experience a bowl of snow, and the Australian will think he has been burned. (Forgive the silly stereotypes!)
This will sound like the "blind men and the elephant" poem; in fact it is very much like it, except that the blind men in the poem have different sensations, depending on the part of the elephant they handle. But God doesn't have "parts"; God is absolutely one, and simple. God is one, and simple, but human experience is plural, and partial. Everyone everywhere is sensing one ultimate reality, one God, but their different mental states give them different experiences.
"Again, using our reason we are able to evaluate and discuss the various concepts of the ultimate reality. Like philosophy we typically find that each concept has some value, but every one falls short in some way.
Is this your meaning?"
OK. That's at least close. I guess I see philosophy/theology as a way to either appropriate or to deflect the sensation of God. The atheist/materialist is sensing God, as much as the mystic, but the materialist has trained his mind to look "beyond" the sensation, to focus on something that is "worth thinking about."
This is how I see the issue, at least for now!
Dad
Yes, I see. Kierkegaard says that faith is the ultimate purpose of every human life. Something beyond which one cannot move, simply because it is the highest that humanity can achieve.
He likens it to love. One cannot say that he has moved beyond love, only deeper into it. To try is to leave yourself with nothing, not even the little glimmering of love which you had in the beginning.
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